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News Updates and Polarizing Looks Part 1

News Updates and Polarizing Looks Part 1

Hello and happy almost-September to everyone embracing the change in seasons. Today, we quickly cover what the Princess of Wales wore to attend church this weekend and then look at a group of some of the most polarizing ensembles worn by the Princess. 

The Prince and Princess of Wales joined other royal family members at church this past Sunday.  

The King, Queen, the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh, the Duke of York, Princess Anne, and Sir Tim Laurence also attended services. 
 

The family is spending time together at Balmoral, the royal family’s estate in the Scottish Highlands. They attended services at Crathie Kirk, the local parish church. 
The Duchess wore a hat by Hicks and Brown, the Suffolk Fedora ($130) in dark brown wool felt. Thank you to Middleton Maven for this ID; she confirmed with the brand this was the hat worn on Sunday.

The Princess has worn the style before. Below, you see her in the navy version when attending church at Sandringham in January 2020

The lack of photos makes it difficult to tell what coat the Princess was wearing, but Regal Fille suggested the Holland Cooper Full Length Marlborough Trench Coat (£849, roughly $1075 at today’s exchange rates), and I think she is correct. Middleton Maven believes it was the ‘Tawny’ colorway, as shown below.

The double-breasted design is made in the UK in 100% wool with a fitted silhouette. Design elements include a self-belt, deep back yoke, shoulder epaulets, adjustable buckles at the wrists, front pockets with piped trim, and the shiny hardware that is a Holland Cooper signature.

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As we approach the first anniversary of the death of Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on September 8, media reports say the King and Queen are expected to mark the day privately. The Mirror reports the Prince and Princess of Wales will visit a cathedral in Wales on the 8th—more from this Russell Myers Mirror article

The Prince and Princess of Wales will on Friday, September 8, visit St David’s Cathedral, on the day they will lead tributes to the late Queen. A year to the day of her passing, William and Kate – who became Prince and Princess of Wales on King Charles’ accession to the throne – will visit communities in south Wales to kick start their autumn plans after the summer break.

Prince William is on the day expected to lead tributes from the royal family, paying homage to the life and legacy of Elizabeth II, but any message will strongly “look to the future”, sources have said. William is not expected to speak at the cathedral but the couple will be shown around the ancient church in St David’s, the UK’s smallest city.

I have not put the event on the calendar because Kensington Palace has not confirmed the engagement. 

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Now for our look at some of the ensembles the Princess wore that spurred discussion and debate. I have broken them into two groups to avoid an overly long post. A refresher on how the outfits were selected, as written in last week’s post. I looked at the number of comments on posts, the content of those comments, people’s reactions when commenting on the outfits a second time in year-end polls, and how people reacted on the WKW Facebook page and other media. A couple of notes to keep in mind: 

  • These are not the most disliked outfits worn by the Princess.
  • In many cases, comments were divided fairly evenly between those fond of specific styles and those not fond of a look. 
  • The items are listed chronologically. The underlined dates link to the original post for each ensemble. 
  • If items worn by the Princess are still available to purchase, I have included links to retailers offering the items. 
  •  I’m sure there are ensembles I missed in compiling the lists. Please leave a comment or send an email to Susan@WhatKateWore.com

OCTOBER 2015: Our first look is the lace dress worn for an engagement during the China state visit to London.

The Duke and Duchess hosted President Xi Jinping and Madame Peng Liyuan at London’s Lancaster House. 

The event celebrated cultural collaboration between the UK and China.

The Duchess’s dress was a design by Dolce and Gabbana, the Italian brand’s Lace Guipure Dress. The knee-length dress is a classic sheath with an internal slip dress with spaghetti straps. It also featured a high neck, long sleeves, and a concealed back zipper. The Duchess accessorized with Gianvito Rossi heels, her “Bayswater” clutch by Mulberry, and her “Empress” earrings by Mappin and Webb.   

The dress itself was not unpopular; most readers thought it was a lovely dress and an elegant look for the Duchess. The issue for many readers was the choice of a lace dress for a daytime event. Fashiophile wrote, “The Duchess looks lovely – except wrong dress for the occasion as it is really a cocktail/evening dress.” Jessica noted, “I agree that this dress may have been a bit too formal for business meetings with a charity, but this function sounds like it was, in essence, a performance. It was a cultural experience, not a business meeting. Seen in that context, I believe that this look was much more appropriate than other commenters seem to believe.” Bunny’s comment summed up the situation very well.

OCTOBER 2015: Less than a week after the China state visit, the Duchess prompted more discussion when she chose a diaphanous Jenny Packham gown for the world premiere of Spectre, a James Bond film.

The event was a benefit for the Cinema and Television Benevolent Fund. The Duchess chose the “Casa” clutch by Jenny Packham and her ‘Vamp’ platform sandals from Jimmy Choo for accessories. She also wore a glittering pair of blue topaz and diamond earrings by Robinson Pelham, the jeweler’s “Pagoda” style.

Her gown was based on a design from the Spring 2011 collection. The loosely draped bodice featured a sheer overlay with a neck-to-waist slit on the back, a full-flowing skirt, and a shimmering diamanté waistband.  

A closer look at the waistline and the crystal buttons at the sleeve. 

Fans of the look wrote about it in many ways, with Jordan saying, “She looks gorgeous and the dress has a very 1930s old Hollywood feel to it.” Others mentioned specific design elements. Kate Fanatic said, “LOVE this look—more figure flattering than the red gown worn to the state dinner…I like the juxtaposition of the long sleeves and the sexy slit at the back—I feel like that kept it from looking matronly and that if the shoulders had remained bare with that back, it would have been too sexy for someone in her role.” Some negative comments referenced the color, with Brooke writing, “If the dress would have been black or a gold, It would have been PERFECTION. However, this pale blue color makes it look dowdy.” Others were not fond of the design, with Suzanne writing, “But overall it looks matronly (as my mother would say) and just swallows up her small frame. Just too much dress.” 

OCTOBER 2015: The very next night, we saw the Duchess in another evening gown that sparked conversation when she wore the Erdem “Alouette Tiered Silk Gown” for a 100 Women in Hedge Funds gala dinner. (The organization is now called 100 Women in Finance.)

The event was at the V&A, and the Duchess accessorized with her Anya Hindmarch “Maud” clutch (£485), “Cosmic” pumps by Jimmy Choo, the diamond bracelet believed to be a gift from Prince Charles, and the Queen Mother’s sapphire and diamond fringe earrings.  

The silk-gazar gown was from the Pre-Fall 2015 collection and features a vivid print called ‘Ohani Tulip’ in a rich crimson hue with creamy ivory orchids and blue irises. The designer says 1960s-era Japanese graphics inspired the print. Design elements include a bateau neckline on the front and deep vee on the back, a tiered and gathered skirt, with the upper skirt tier having box pleats and a concealed zipper.

Those complimenting the look included Laurie, who noted, “While this dress is never what I would have chosen, I absolutely love it because it’s SUCH a departure from what the Duchess normally wears! I like to see her branching out and trying new things.” Emily Rose Reeder pointed out the gown’s references to the V&A’s collections and exhibition, “It was also a perfect selection for the Gala event as taking place in the Victoria and Albert Museum. They have hosted numerous exhibits celebrating Asian art and I think people did not consider that Catherine considered she would be showing up and giving a nod as an ‘ambassador’ for art within the British museum.” And Sherrie wrote, “The fabric is gorgeous and that is what makes it an evening gown and not just another maxi dress. Yes it could be chintz you might find on the veranda cushions but that is the fun of it.”

Readers who were not fond of the look had varying reasons, including this point by Reneé, “I don’t like the Erdem dress because the fabric is too heavy for ruffles and pleats and the print and its colours are too “loud.” Adrienne wrote, “I think the dress would have been a home run without the ruffle.” Katie wrote, “But when I saw the whole thing I thought, ‘Oh no.’ I just cannot get on board with that final tier, 80’s prom style, prairie style, what-have-you bottom of her skirt. It is just too much billowing fabric for such a bold print. I think if this was a skirt or a pencil or shift dress it would be amazingly stunning. But as a dress with such a billowing bottom, the heavy fabric and large/loud pattern is too much.”

MARCH 2016: Our next look is also by Erdem, but it was a coat, not an evening gown, that prompted debate. The event was the annual Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey.

The Duchess paired the coat with a hat by John Boyd, “Winona” pumps by Rupert Sanderson, an Emmy London clutch ($425), and her UFO diamond and aquamarine drop earrings.

The Erdem coat was similar to a Pre-Fall 2015 style by the designer in a material that looked like it was needle-punched with a scalloped lace overlay. The fitted silhouette featured a high neckline and collar, slightly puffed shoulders, on-seam pockets, and concealed front closure.

A sampling of comments includes this one from Sara, who wrote, “I genuinely love this outfit. I think the hat really suits her and is a welcome change from her usual smaller ones.” Many concurred on the hat, with Jennifer noting, “Agree 100% with another poster who already said it, she can pull off larger hats and I hope she will more often.” Those who didn’t care for the overall look cited things like a feeling the ensemble was “too busy” with “too much going on.” Many did not care for the high neckline on the coat, especially when paired with the hat and what some described as “mismatched grey shades.” Elizabeth summed up many comments when saying, “While I think that the coat is lovely, between it and the larger heavy hat, she looks ‘swamped.’ It seems like it should have worked, but somehow just didn’t.”

JUNE 2016: Our next item is also a coat, this one by Missoni. It was worn by the Duchess for an event marking the 100th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme. 

The event was at the Thiepval Memorial to the Missing in northern France, the largest Commonwealth war memorial in the world.

The Duchess wore Missoni’s “Long Snake Stitch Coat,” in the brand’s signature snake stitch (also known as a Bargello stitch, or zig-zag) in a fabric with black, grey, and white fibers; metallic threads used in the textile created a soft shimmer effect. The Duchess also wore a Lock & Co. pillbox hat, her Gianvito Rossi 105 black suede pumps ($795), and her “Eugenia” faux pearl earrings by Balenciaga. She carried her black Bayswater clutch by Mulberry. 

The Duchess brought back the coat for an April 2017 Service of Hope at Westminster Abbey following a terrorist attack. On that occasion, she accessorized with a handbag from a collaboration between Beulah London and Aspinal of London, a Sylvia Fletcher for Lock & Co. hat, and her Gianvito Rossi 105 black suede pumps.

The single-breasted coat featured an A-line silhouette with oversized patch pockets and a back vent.

Becky, a fan of the ensemble, wrote, “She looks chic and stylish but still understated and respectful.” Another reader with a positive reaction, Suzy, said, “I like the greys and pattern of her coat and whilst I often think she looks too ‘buttoned-up’, on this occasion it’s appropriate and gives a clean elegant look. Overall a good look in terms of suitability and elegance.” Those with negative sentiments included Claire, who wrote, “I’m not a huge fan of this outfit. The individual elements are fine, but overall it looks very severe, which isn’t something I’ve ever felt about Kate’s look previously.” Several readers commented on what they felt was subpar tailoring. Most importantly, Mel encapsulated feelings many of us had about the occasion, saying, “I find myself distracted from Kate’s fashion by the enormous sadness of the occasion (as it should be).” NOTE: I have updated the post to include information from the second time the Duchess wore the coat. The comments reacting to the look are all from the first time the coat was worn; there were very limited comments on the second wearing with even fewer covering fashion.

OCTOBER 2016: Yet another coat that generated debate: an Erdem design chosen for a day of engagements with Prince William in Manchester. The coat was from the designer’s 2016 Resort collection.

The Duchess accessorized with her navy “Frome” Clutch by LK Bennett, her Rupert Sanderson “Malory” Pumps (£345), and earrings by Oscar de la Renta.

The knee-length coat was done in a bold print and featured a fitted bodice, wide, round lapels, an inset waistband, a concealed placket with snap closures, lightly padded shoulders, and two flap pockets on each side that hit near the upper hip.

We had several comments celebrating the navy shoes, as opposed to the neutral shades the Duchess had been wearing. The earrings also generated quite a few comments. Larissa, who appreciated the look, wrote, “I like the coat… It fits very well, it’s not too short, and I love the attention to detail with the fabric on the pocket flaps lining up with the rest of the coat.” Another fan of the ensemble, Mocro, said, “A bold plaid like this works best on someone as tall as Kate and agree this is one of the many times the outfit looked better on Kate than on the professional model!” Negative reactions included a sense that the combination of the coat’s many design elements and fabric combined for a “busy” look. Others felt the waistline was too high, and some commented the black lace camisole or top looked “fussy.” In her comment, S. Brown wrote, “The coat is a bit busy in my opinion, and the bit of lace showing at the neckline adds to the busy-ness.”

JULY 2017: The final look in this group is the Marchesa evening gown worn for the Spain state dinner.

This is a tough one to cover because of the lack of clear photos. Her bespoke lace guipure gown featured a deep scalloped vee neckline front and back, sheer, belled sleeves, and a full skirt with a demi-train. 

The Duchess’s jewelry was a significant part of her ensemble, and it included the Lover’s Knot Tiara, the Collingwood Pearl and Diamond Earrings, and a necklace reportedly not worn since the 1980s, the Queen’s Ruby and Diamond Floral Bandeau Necklace.

Here is a glimpse of the Duchess as she arrived for the event with Prince William.  
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The ensemble generated a broad and varied mix of opinions. Margaret wrote, “This is a fabulous look in my opinion. Love the dress, amazing jewellery, and her hair and makeup. Of course the jewellery is a little OTT. She is a duchess at an important occasion – she needs to stand out a little!” Melanie said, “Take off a piece before leaving the house? No way! I would say, ‘thank you ma’am, may I have another?'” Another fan of the ensemble, SM, noted, “This is a gorgeous dress that is referential to past fashion at court while also incorporating current trends. Does she look over the top? Yes. Is one supposed to look over the top when they’re attending a state banquet with two European royals and are also themselves a future Queen? Um yes.” ElizaMo referenced the gown’s sleeves in part of her comment: “The current craze for gathered bell sleeves is one I view as something of a curse. They are frequently ugly and border on disastrous when coupled with further ruffles such as at the hem. Kate’s natural restraint has kept hers in proportion and produced something that complements a grandiose setting while balanced by extra fullness in the skirt.”

Those less fond of the look included Helen, who wrote, “This combination just isn’t working for me. That necklace is a stunner but it begs for different tiara and earrings – demure pearls seem like the wrong stone, and the overall jewelry effect is very heavy.” Lulu concurred, commenting, “The lace, exposed back, exposed front, bell sleeves, full skirt, and all that jewellery – there is far too much going on.” 

Apologies for this not being published the first of the week, as promised. We were without electricity from Thursday night until Monday and without internet until Tuesday. Barring thunderstorms and tornadoes, I will have the second part published early next week. 

 

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Stephanie

Wednesday 6th of September 2023

One of my top faves is on here, the pale blue Jenny Packham gown! The flowy, fabric overlay and the slit in the back was so understated and sexy, and the whole dress just moved so fluidly. I wasn't a fan of the shoe choice but everything else was spot on. One of my least faves is also on here - the Marchesa gown. The light pink colour washed her out and I felt there was just too much going on. The big Lover's Knot tiara, and heavy jewelry, it looked as if she might topple over from all the bling up top.

Also not surprised at all to see Erdem on here a few times, and although I'm not a fan, I will say that I adore that coat! Would love to see her wear that again, the colour is so rich and beautiful.

Looking forward to revisiting more polarizing looks in future posts! Great job!

Betsey

Tuesday 5th of September 2023

The Jenny Packham gown is gorgeous, but somehow it didn't suit Kate. There's too much fabric perhaps. And the pale blue color kind of washed her out. I'm normally not a fan of Kate's Erdem outfits, but I've always liked the blue/red/ivory print Erdem gown--minus the ruffle at the bottom. The ruffle ruined it for me. But otherwise, I love the vivid print and the vee back. It was youthful looking and a nice departure for Kate. And finally, I also like the blue Erdem coat Kate wore in Manchester. The colors (navy and pink) are nice and not a combination you see that often in coats. And again, it was a bit of a departure for Kate.

Debs

Tuesday 5th of September 2023

This group has some of my favourites and while I am very happy to read different opinions I find it hard to see the negatives ! I loved the grey coat by Erdem and I thought the hat and accessories were on point , she looked unexpectedly lovely in the grey . The first wearing of the Mission outfit in 2016 was my favourite, I preferred the hat she wore with it , to the one worn in 2017 . I thought she look very smart and very royal in that outfit!

The Marchesa evening gown was definitely inspired by a more romantic age than ours , but so what , in my opinion , as there is very little fashion that is completely original and isn’t inspired by the past . About the jewels , I honestly believe the Queen wanted her to wear them and that she didn’t choose them herself . It was widely reported that Catherine wanted to wear flowers in her hair at her marriage , the only jewellery she wanted to wear were the earrings her parents gave her ( her parents also paid for her dress it was reported) But the Queen insisted that she wore a tiara as befitting her future husband’s station , so she chose a very modest one , she doesn’t come easily to bling , in my opinion. The Queen of Spain was present that evening and there is always an element of not being overshadowed at these events , National pride comes into it let’s face it , so she probably wore what the Queen wanted her to wear . Yes pearls or something dainty would have probably suited the dress better but you don’t say no to the Queen .

That Jenny Packham turquoise gown is one of my all time favourites and I can’t for the love of me see why others dislike it . It moves with such grace when she walks , it falls beautifully and is such a lovely colour and that unexpected back just finishes it off for me , to me it’s just fabulous !

Debs

Wednesday 6th of September 2023

@admin, Sorry , you got me intrigued ,the earliest article I found was a story for the Daily M. 7th April 2011 by Catherine Ostler , hope I can mention her , as the article was widely resurrected before the Coronation with yet another tiara story . She said the present Queen C . had asked friends help in persuading the bride to wear a tiara . She is a very well known contributor and editor to various journals etc , the article has a bit of a sting to it but would she completely make it up I wonder ? Who knows . Thank you again for all the time and care you take to create this interesting site .

Debs

Wednesday 6th of September 2023

@admin, Thanks for trying to get to the original source of the story and both due to age and lack of resources to better your findings I will for now accept your conclusion . It’s just that so often these stories eventually prove to be founded on fact or at least a kernel of truth and I use the rumours that Prince William wanted to keep his beard for the wedding and wear his black uniform and not wear scarlet and we now have proof in the form of of a photo taken when he gets to wear that uniform and is proudly seated beside his bride in it . Catherine doesn’t wear a floral crown though 😉.

As a avid Royal watcher from childhood with two generations before me the same , I have learned time and again that strange (often even shocking )stories leaked from a source , have proved , too often , to be true as where else do these things come from ? Some times of course it’s pure mischief making and trying to tar someone and there lies the rub !

But Catherine did get to wear a very modest tiara barely visible under her veil , did she choose it ? . I think so . Sarah , marrying the ‘spare ‘ went into church with a beautiful exuberant floral crown and came out with a beautiful not at all modest Tiara , a gift reportedly from Her Majesty . I have watched the Cambridge’s wedding again so many times , when things are going badly for the Royal family and especially them and I always smile at Prince William saying to his father in law to be , remember we said it would be a modest affair ( para phrased) I think that was what they really wanted .

admin

Tuesday 5th of September 2023

Thank you for commenting, Deb! It has been interesting to see the feedback on the different looks. As far as the stories about the hypothetical wish to wear flowers in her hair on her wedding day, that is interesting. It appears The Mirror was the original "source" on this story but when looking at the actual piece there is no sourcing, no one cited, the only phrase used is, "That's because it's believed that she had originally wanted to wear a somewhat untraditional flower crown." (I'm not suggesting she did or didn't want to wear flowers. I can very much see her hoping to incorporate that element of her mother's wedding into her own look, but also think she would have likely known and expected it would be a tiara occasion because of Prince William's position.) I am always taken aback when seeing a rash of stories proclaiming something as fact but when the topic is examined more closely, it appears all of the stories are based on one initial piece that had no hard fact in the reporting, just the "it's believed" statement. (This is not directed at you, not at all, but at the industry, and as you might guess, it's a bit of 'hot button' for me!)

Jkdee

Monday 4th of September 2023

Thanks for this epic post, Susan

The plum coloured D & G is very pretty, but I am inclined to agree that it reads "cocktail party" or "society wedding¿ rather than "daytime engagement. I notice one other thing: I think the underslip must have two very high slits as in one picture, the flesh colour of her stockings is clear quite high up in the dress. A single deep rear slit in the lining would have allowed for movement without riding up.

The pale blue Packham dress did very little to flatter this beautiful woman. The pale colour reads very dull on my screen, and tends to wash her out. The cross over bodice is sloppy and unattractive. I would be pleaded if this one got lost in the back back of the cupboard and was never seen again.

I love the rich, saturated print on the Erdem Alouette gown but feel it would have been better served on a more restrained silhouette, a long slim cut gown. Or perhaps the clean lines of the Preen black and red cocktail gowns she owns with lots of room at the neck.

I really appreciate the beautiful gray print of the Erdem coat, and was happy to see the large hat but still feel it sits a bit heavily on her. Maybe a similar shape in a straw or a slightly different cut that lifts away from the face would have been better.

The Missoni zigzag makes me think of Tatiana Casiraghi- the pattern is a bit distracting for me. The same cut of coat in a subtle tweed or monotone plaid would have been an improvement. Otherwise that was an impeccable outing.

I unreservedly love the navy and pink Erdem coat. Was this coat worn twice? In most of the pics, Kate's hair is tied back in a pony tail, but in one shot, it is loose. Anyhow, if Kate wasn’t to get rid of that one,, she can toss it this way.

Finally, my only quibble with the Marchesa gown is the colour. I believe it was made to showcase the ruby necklace and would have been vastly improved if it was a deep ruby or maybe plum colour. I think the pale rose completely washes Kate out.

Jkdee

Friday 8th of September 2023

@Kiki in Vancouver,

Must be the air in Vancouver - that's where I am too! I loved the red Preen as worn in Victoria so thought the gorgeous fabric of the Erdem dress could be redeployed into the Preen dress pattern.

Kiki in Vancouver

Tuesday 5th of September 2023

@Jkdee, what a fabulous suggestion. That busy Erdem print would look great in the style of the Preen dresses😊

Jkdee

Monday 4th of September 2023

@admin, thanks! The accessories were the same, so that makes sense! She does not often vary a hairstyle during an engagement.

admin

Monday 4th of September 2023

She only wore the Erdem checked coat one time. Her hair was back for most of the visit but she took it out of the loose ponytail at the last engagement, wearing it completely down. (I was initially confused when revisiting the post and had to look it up!)

MIckyO

Monday 4th of September 2023

My mind right back to how I felt when I saw each of these looks. Some were -well that's a risk -to OMG! I totally get that these looks were polarizing for so many reasons. That being said, I think I can find something positive in most of them. • The Dolce and Gabbana, lace dress was so beautiful, and the fit was perfect; • The Erdem grey coat was paired with a hat by John Boyd that looked so great on Kate; • The Missoni’s Long Snake Stitch Coat had a soft shimmer effect; • The 2016 Resort collection coat by Erdem has a fun pattern;

Then, the two gowns that caused me to do a double take and basically say What in the World were the stylists thinking? First, the Marchesa evening gown worn for the Spain state dinner took me right to a place not far from where I live- Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia. Those sleeves and (seemingly) brocade fabric were taken right from Colonial era dresses. However, the neckline made of lace were lovely.

Take a look: https://www.amazon.com/GRACEART-Pioneer-Colonial-Costume-size-10/dp/B07DQKQ3BB/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=Colonial%2BDress&qid=1693840188&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1&psc=1

I am guessing that the Erdem “Alouette Tiered Silk Gown is the most polarizing in the group. Could it have been saved? I can imagine would be better without being way too long and without the tiered look. Perhaps a more sleek design? It did have possibilities that weren’t realized- maybe.

This is so much fun to take a trip down memory lane. I can’t wait to see another group!

Zell

Tuesday 5th of September 2023

@Susan Q, Thank you so much, and yes, I also think the soft pink Marchesa gown looks like it could be from another century, (but, with a modern take). I love that this gown has such an interesting design, and I think your references to Marie Antoinette and Catherine the Great are apt ones, for this gown. The gown Catherine wore gives just enough of that lovely, historical suggestion, without being a costume, imo.

Susan Q

Monday 4th of September 2023

@Zell, well said… I agree as my original post commented on the similar style of this stunning pink gown and its resemblance to gowns worn back in the 1700-1800’s. Is it exactly the same in its design as one worn by Catherine the Great and Marie Antoinette? No, not exactly, but overall it looks as though it could be from another century.

Joanne

Monday 4th of September 2023

@MIckyO, we’re practically neighbors! I live in Norfolk, and my daughter is in Yorktown.

Zell

Monday 4th of September 2023

@MIckyO, your link shows a replica of a 1700s gown. Below my comments is a link I found a link to a real gown from that time period, which I hope people will find interesting to compare to Catherine's gown. For instance, Catherine's gown has similar sleeves, to some extent, but they are not as exaggerated as the ones on the actual 1700s gown. The rest of her gown is not that similar at all, as I see it (notice how wide the sides of the skirt of the 1700s gown are. That effect was created with something underneath the skirt called panniers. (Yes, it's true: back then, women wanted their hips to look wider than nature made them):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannier_(clothing)

I personally love to see gowns that have elements that harken back in time to historical periods. Whenever a commenter notes how a gown like Catherine's pink Marchesa looks like it's from the 1980s, I'm thinking: it goes back in time much, much earlier than that.

The Marchesa pink gown is not everyone's cup of tea, but some love ruffles. It's Individual taste.

Here's the link to an authentic 1700s gown. How such a thing had survived so long is really amazing, but the clothes were all hand stitched back then, which is also amazing:

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/99509

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